Well... that would be a lot of things. I had some trouble writing this post because I had to think about how to describe this in a concise way.
We use a lot of symbolism in wonderland. One main use is it can be used for revealing unconscious thought patterns. The best way I can think to describe it is it's like looking at static or playing with tarot cards- it's generalized nonsense and what you end up with is seeing yourself. We also use symbolism to focus on a particular feeling or even something more complex. We have a symbol device that can measure trust levels and a much larger symbol servitor that can affect our sleep schedule. I believe this is caused by suggestion, and our symbolism seems useful for enhancing it and producing intriguing effects.
I would rather not describe too much detail about therapy related experiences.
When you mention affirmations, that makes me think of our switching. It is useful for correcting a switch and we use it during our switching ritual (unless I'm switching between my clones, I am allowed to cheat since it's all me).
The only other thing that comes to mind for affirmations is sense of identity. My identity is surprisingly rigid, I have grown frustrated trying to stretch it and warp it to my desires. In comes my clones. I can mold my personality however I like, all I have to do is create a new facet of myself. I do like to remind myself I'm all one entity, especially since I occasionally get anxious about Ranger and Gray "tulpafying" my clones(edited)
I think it does, but not because I'm magically the "Subconscious Representative" as I have seen discussion on in #RedditTulpas. I allow myself to be more impulsive, more vulnerable to suggestion. And in turn, I believe suggestion can greatly influence the mind itself. It's a two way street.
My headmates are capable of doing everything I am capable of doing. They simply don't want to because you would become more impulsive, possibly turn into an intrusive thought at times, and be more flexible with your sense of identity. Or you may find some "Sub. Rep." role that has none of those downsides. If it helps, I actually have a "tulpa" form where I process information more similarly to how Gray and Ranger do so. I don't think the form itself is necessary, it just helps me change my state of mind.
Hmm yeah the way I'm perceiving it for us is more in the sense that they're a regular headmate but their role gives them more conscious control over the un/subconscious mind so things like placebo or affirmations are more effective.
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which would be useful to us for our internal and external manifestations
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might not even need placebo, could even just control it directly with the right mindset
I'm not exactly sure what you're alluding to there, but I should point out symbolism isn't magic either. While you can learn a lot being more attuned to your unconscious mind, things like mental health problems can create challenges you will need therapy to resolve.
but for a non-meta example, say we're trying to achieve co-con, we do symbolism or affirmations for it
maybe the sub rep does those same techniques and then it works better/faster
Ah, parallel processing type stuff.
I largely suspect suggestion is at play. Whether or not I'm required for such a thing I doubt it, all you really need is the attitude of being open to strange ideas.
Ranger currently suspects parallel processing is a form of dissociation that like switching is dependent on mindset. If this assumption is true, than parallel processing would be dependent on the mindset you have of it and the symbolism you use to trigger it.
That is one of our ideas of what parallel processing even is.
In the meantime, Ranger has her own thing she's doing on that. She made some videos and plans to do more tests.
I haven't possessed for this long in awhile, I'm growing tired. Good luck
I don't recall someone calling a tulpa that before. Would a more developed tulpa be a flower? If so, that may be a bit better as a personal name, but you never know what catches on
it feels strange having schizophrenia and a tulpa at the same time. i'm constantly telling them that not every thought that enters the head is from me and that i don't mean the mean stuff
Luminesce: A tulpa can act like a good friend or companion for their host, which usually entails listening to them and comforting them when they struggle(edited)
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But actually figuring out how to improve your life is a question for each individual to figure out for themselves(edited)
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There are many necessary things a tulpa can't just do for their host to make them happy or get their life in order
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You guys can talk about figuring out what's necessary, but otherwise the host needs to figure it out for themselves (though that can easily involve outside help, google, a therapist or so on)
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A switched tulpa could do some of that for their host, but even then the host will have to be the one to put what's learned to use and make the effort to change
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(Hostmancy was a joke, by the way, I was just saying this isn't really a tulpa-related question)(edited)
Trying to do the tulpa vocalization pratice with my tulpa and I think it's quite interesting
I'm doing the "what's the first word you think after reading the word..." For tree she said "apple" and for superman it was "cape". And, for both words, she said she picked it "because it's red"
When you switch and a tulpa becomes your main identity, you can treat a host like another character and interact with them like you are usually interacting with a tulpa.
Y'know, I could never switch. I could do things like tulpa controlling my body or feeling my senses though, so I think it's more a 'host not being able to let go' kind of thing.
I think it's easy with right mindset, contrary to what many people imagine. There are some misunderstandings about switching. Some people even expect to blackout during that, while there is nothing like that.
Huh, the guide I'm looking at says blackout can happen by accident. The consciousness switch is the last level. 'control/dissociation' is the fourth level, and dissociation seems like the hard part for me.
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(Huh, personality work on the host is still fairly interesting)
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Huh, the guide I'm looking at says blackout can happen by accident. The consciousness switch is the last level. 'control/dissociation' is the fourth level, and dissociation seems like the hard part for me.
Tried looking on tulpa.info, but couldn't find much on the site search
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...ah, everything's in the forums there, so the site search doesn't go through that.
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Y'know, I could never switch. I could do things like tulpa controlling my body or feeling my senses though, so I think it's more a 'host not being able to let go' kind of thing.
After almost six years of trying, we finally learned how to switch last November. To commemorate, we created a guide compiling methods and advice for possession and switching. We hope that this guide will help others so that nobody else may struggle for as long as we did. Felights' Fronting Funda...
The primary could fall unconscious temporarily while the tulpa is still controlling the body, also known as a form of blackout, which may or may not be intentional.
Instead of becoming fully unconscious, the host could become mentally inactive and simply become a passive observer of the tulpa and what they are doing.
The primary is then placed within the wonderland/mindscape, much like how a tulpa would reside in the mind where they can perform their own tasks.
The primary, much like their tulpa, can impose themself on the physical plane and follow the tulpa around with their own imposed senses.
I see, it's really put that way. Unfortunately, this description seem to confuse switching with a tulpa that tulpamancers do and what switching means for people affected with dissociative disorders. The latter experience memory barriers which are apparently described here as a form of blackout.
Switching In my observations, there are two broad categories of switching, characterized by the following attributes. 1. A shift in primary thought origination. 2. Bodily activity direction. 3. Full body possession. 4. Host awareness dissociation. "Wait what's the difference between possession ...
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